Green Tangerine Saves The Day
Well, after the single most peculiar site move I’ve ever experienced it seems we are stable and on our new servers at Green Tangerine Media. These folks saved our site today by being willing to jump in and do the relocation on a bare few minutes notice.
You see today Alan Gutierrez, who has presented himself as ThinkNOLA since the storm, decided that the proper response to my inquiries about the multiple and highly unreasonable hold ups was to punch me in the face twice, in public, at a new media conference.
Out of respect for the organizers I laid it out that I would not press charges if he would release our database and allow Green Tangerine to relocate it before leaving the building. He did so, I am not pressing charges, and HumidCity is now safely out of the burning house of cards that was ThinkNOLA. This altercation will be the subject of a future posting once my temper has cooled enough to do it properly.
In the meantime I cannot thank Jennifer at GTM enough. I’m sure this was probably the weirdest work call she has received. I mean how often do hosting companies get emergency/move it now/ violence and police based requests from their new clients? The speed and kindness of their assistance has assured me that this is the right place for our little bunch of Internet misfits. Instant response, great communication, rapid implementation, and a cheerful attitude are all traits that seem to be hallmarks for Green Tangerine.
If you enjoy HumidCity join us in saying thank you for their emergency save by leaving a comment here. They really came though like champs!
Coming soon: Drinks with the Inspector General, Fisticuffs on the Convention Floor, a Blog Carnival Post from Greg Peters of Suspect Device, and a sincere question about parking legalities.
-Loki, HumidCity Founder
August 23rd, 2008 at 9:24 pm
[...] it 2 seconds after the punches were landed. I saw Loki walking around after with a swollen face. Glad it didn’t end up with the NOPD being summoned. I had this weird premonition beforehand of C. Ray dispatching his police to arrest all the [...]
August 23rd, 2008 at 9:41 pm
And just think, I didn’t make the convention becauses I was afraid it would be dull.
It sure was nice of GTM to save the day — albeit from a safe distance :)
Loki, I never figured you for a tough guy, but remember this: the best fighter isn’t the one who delivers the best punches, but is the one who can take the best punches. So you’ve got that going for you!
Now, get yrself an ice pack and put up your feet. Doctor’s orders.
;)
August 23rd, 2008 at 9:58 pm
We at Green Tangerine Media make it a point to be as helpful as we can …. from at least 2,500 miles away! Seriously, when Loki called and gave the news my jaw just dropped. We take web hosting seriously but … this is a new one, a story for the grandkids I’d say. “You see kids, you meet all types in the wild world of web design…..”
Anyway, we’re happy to have HumidCity safe and sound.
August 23rd, 2008 at 10:32 pm
“We at Green Tangerine Media make it a point to be as helpful as we can …. from at least 2,500 miles away!”
Lol. Thanks also for your sense of humor. :)
August 23rd, 2008 at 11:20 pm
Wait ’till we turn ‘em loose on the redesign!
August 24th, 2008 at 12:56 am
[...] Loki would like you all to know that HumidCity is temporarily down while they wait for the domain transfer to propagate. The site is currently showing as down, but it will be back up again in just a few days up and running at its new host. [...]
August 24th, 2008 at 8:08 am
I think I speak for all readers of Humid City when I thank the new host for their quick response to a bizarre situation. Glad the HC is back up after such a short outage (which was entirely an issue with the prior host, not the new host).
HC fills an important niche left vacant here in New Orleans when Metroblogging New Orleans lost some of its best posters, and started to off way to much vacuous lifestype crap. (I notice Craig and Laureen are still there posting, as I’d stopped checking. Maybe they should talk to Loki).
August 24th, 2008 at 8:23 am
All right, GTM! The Humid Beings are all now safe. Can’t wait to post at the “new” HC.
August 24th, 2008 at 10:00 am
I missed it but heard later of an altercation. Having later spoken to several witnesses, I was disappointed that the incident was not reported to police. Your loyalty to Rising Tide is admirable, but I think the perpetrator should have suffered the consequences. I will write no more about it since it was your call and I respect you too much to question your decision.
What does it say about a person that he resorts to violence without provocation? The irony here is that Rising Tide is populated by some of the most liberal, anti-Bush, anti-Iraq invasion and occupation people in the city–people who want peace.
And yet one of ours acts like a fucking baboon.
We are a support group, a fan club for New Orleans. We debate and argue and hash out our differences, but at the end we always understand that we are on the same team. Altercations at past conferences always had a funny, almost vaudevillian slant. Not this one. This was vicious and distrubing.
You have my apologies that I didn’t tell you of my support in person. I look forward to a frank discussion with all the NOLA Bloggers of what we can do to let you know that we are truly sorry this happened to you, that Alan will be appropriately punished, and that we can take actions to never have this happen again.
Peace,
Tim
August 24th, 2008 at 10:19 am
Thanks fr the kind words everyone. My main priority is dealt with, removing HumidCity from the ThinkNOLA servers and any association with this highly unstable individual.
As to the violence, I am giving it a bit more time, as stated in my post above, before I make further comment. I wish to be coldly rational about it when I do.
August 24th, 2008 at 11:36 am
See what happens when you hang around with unstable anarchist types. Drink some elixir and lie down a spell. Monks orders…
August 24th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Quick correction to a comment above: Humid Beings is actually Humid Haney, not me. Anyone wishing to pay them a visit should go check out http://www.humidbeings.com
August 24th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Loki, this is really sickening.
Reading your selected parts of your side, smearing Alan, to a scene that probably only Alan could verify, and backed up by Ruppert’s smarmy ass kissing, just reeks of playground pussy whipping.
Haven’t seen this kind of loyalty since they ganged up and knifed Ceaser.
So long, Suck’ah!
August 24th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
huh? That was brutally incoherent, try again.
August 24th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Take your meds and try again.
You are sucker punching Alan over a scene that we did not witness.
You have done so in other comments sections.
Do a post and present your case, but stop this back handedness.
Alan has walked a long road with this group. I have yet to find anywhere he is reciprocating your smear tactics. No one knows what you must have said to push a GIS tech geek to use his fists.
I just call them as I see them and you are the one whining here not Alan.
August 24th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
You were not there. You are being abusive. Your further comments will be deleted.
August 24th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
This commenter is obviously a troll. SPAM!!
August 24th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
I attended the conference but did not witness the altercation. I was there from 9-11 and then from 1-3:30. Everything seemed perfectly orderly, friendly and productive while I was there….
August 24th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Tim Ruppert said that he was not there either but still was allowed to comment in the negative against Alan. Hmmm yes you are a coward. Your Freudian Slip is showing.
August 24th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
@Sandy It was an unfortunate incident that should not be allowed to tarnish the name of Rising Tide, whose organizers handled things very well concerning the circumstances. The incident itself was only a few moments in duration.
@Bruce Biles/Editilla I’m going t allow your comments after all. I’m having fun watching you make an ass of yourself. I will ask one last time though- were you there? Have you spoken to anyone who was? Your comments seem to support physical violence, good for you. I do not.
August 24th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
You must be desperate to print my actual name. Low blow that one. Too bad, I expected more. Thought that was against your self described blogetiquette.
So what does being there have to do with getting to the bottom of this one-sided hearsay here?
Stick with the argument and stop doing ad hominem and straw man.
You only prove my point here, to wit: You are smearing Alan with only one side of the story. I challenge that. You attempt to dismiss it by presenting another point.
Tim Ruppert wasn’t there either, but he said it was “vicious and disturbing.”
So are you going to let Tim slid on the eye-witness fallacy simply because he supported your attack on Alan.
August 24th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Please don’t feed the trolls
Why not?
When you feed trolls you’re giving them the internet equivalent of junk food. Instead of consuming a wide range of viewpoints, they become dependent on processed snark, rumor and other foods that are not part of their natural diet. This can make them very sick.
They may also lose their ability to forage for natural relationships and become dependent on message boards and the comment sections on many blogs. Trolls that expect to be fed by people can become aggressive, harassing people when they are hungry.
What about hand-feeding baby trolls?
Hand-fed trolls become a nuisance - you may start feeding one or two trolls but, within a short space of time, great flocks can descend. This can be a frightening experience especially for small children.
Trolls find it difficult to distinguish between your blog and the information in it. A troll bite or scratch is very painful and prone to infection as these animals are scavengers.
Never feed a troll.
August 24th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Troll? Hahahahahaaaaa
Jeez Louie! Please tell me you have more up your sleave than this.
Alexis, no troll here and you know it.
I am just another nola blogger defending one our own from an indefensible back-handed smear. That’s all.
Loki attempts smear Alan here in public over a scene none of us saw happen in public.
That just won’t do.
“Trolls that expect to be fed by people can become aggressive, harassing people when they are hungry.”
HA! Like you are being and doing right here and now?
Grow up, baby troll.
August 24th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
Loki:
“Be silent, Odin! Not justly thou settest
The fate of the fight among men;
Oft gavst thou to him who deserved not the gift,
To the baser, the battle’s prize.”
Odin:
“Though I gave to him who deserved not the gift,
To the baser, the battle’s prize;
Winters eight wast thou under the earth,
Milking the cows as a maid,
Ay, and babes didst thou bear;
Unmanly thy soul must seem.”
I’m done here.
Violence amongst bloggers who used to be friends is bad enough. And that is bad no lie.
But, for you to attempt to use your public blog against your former friend, rather than trying to work it out with him in private, is what gall my ass.
I like Alan a lot and respect his work immensely. He has always been absolutely straight up with me. Such honesty as I have always seen in Alan I am not seeing here.
August 24th, 2008 at 8:37 pm
Alexixs - excellent explanation. :)
August 24th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
opps!! Alexis! sorry m’dear.
enjoyed your comment - went back to read it again. :)
August 24th, 2008 at 10:26 pm
Just for the record, I personally broke up a physical altercation between Alan and a rollergirl’s husband at Ashley’s wake at the Bulldog. (An altercation which Alan started but was losing badly, by the way, because he was stumbling drunk.)
This was at Ashley’s fucking WAKE, man. I thought I was doing him a favor because he was apparently about to get the living shit kicked out of him, but mostly I was trying to preserve peace because of the nature of the event.
So Alan has a history of being involved in physical violence at these gatherings. He’s the only one in this group, that I know of, that has such a history.
August 24th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
Thank you, Ray.
And just for the record, I do not support Alan popping Loki, or anyone else swinging down, especially at the blogging conference –and especially over server access or data? Eahgads.
I don’t do physical violence. Check that. I did do very physical violence during the first week of the flood, but am pretty much past at least blogging about it unless severely provoked. I do still talk to a therapist about twice a month.
Alcoholic violence is a different matter all together. It changes everything around it, whether drunk at the time or not.
Sorry Loki.
Grew up with it. Woke up with it. Finally saw it staring at me in the mirror.
I’m one of the lucky ones…damn blessed no lie.
I knew there was more to this. There always is, especially amongst friends and family. It certainly puts a cherry on top of that Blogger Social Theory discussion going around postmortem.
Well that wraps it up for me, albeit in used butcher paper.
I am neither close enough to Alan, or any of you his friends, nor sponsorship qualified to get into this any further.
However, love really does surrender the goods.
Again, sorry Loki.
August 24th, 2008 at 11:44 pm
Having just spent 2 years post-K in Portland (motto: “If There’s Any Disagreement, Let’s Pretend It Didn’t Happen, and, Oh, By the Way, Portland is Awesome”) I can only imagine the reaction to your call. They think we’re all crazy down here anyway.
Hope the new web host works out for you. I have no idea about the history of this altercation (and probably don’t want one), but I’m glad Humid City is up and running.
August 25th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
I’m a little stunned by this thread, let me tell you. As someone who witnessed the altercation from the first swing, let me know if I need to fill out and sign any affidavits.
August 25th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Kevin,
As a witness to Jennifer@Green Tangerine Media’s reaction to the call I can say that, yes, she was suitably stunned, “Portland-style”. LOL. She’s a Colorado native (Denver suburb) and life in Portland really pacifies you into thinking the world is all about hugging and skipping through the park on a sunny day - so yeah, she was two parts freaked and two parts disbelief. It was rather amusing to watch actually. I’ve never seen a phone call here at Green Tangerine that has made Jennifer’s eyes quite so wide - she mouthed to me “What the f**k?” and then her eyes got wider still. I half expected Alan Funt to walk through the door (yes, I know that’s a bit improbable now that he’s long since passed).
Good times. Then you realize it’s all real and serious and you just do what you can to get the thing transfered and back up online. Jennifer did that in record time, kudos to her, but it’s the jaw dropped bluging eyeballs expression I’ll remember in years to come.
August 25th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
@Cousin Pat Thank you. I will be in touch if need be. I really do appreciate that.
@dickrichards2000 Thanks for sharing that! First big grin I’ve gotten in two days! See, you should have had your camera phone out! “Portland Style” saved my bacon when the drama came up and I’ll sing your praises loud and long as a result. Jennifer has a care package from NOLA going into the mail soon…
August 25th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
http://righthandthief.blogspot.com/2008/08/recapping-rt3-pt-2.html
August 25th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
Big props for being a grown up about it - we should get a beer.
August 25th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
Thanks. Love to. Email me. humidcity /gmail
September 19th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Alan Gutierrez is a poser and an opportunist. Prior to K, his opinion of New Orleans was one of despise and mockery. Deriding folk whom he perceived as less then he, in now gone but not forgotten pre-k blogs.
Post-K he re-made himself as some kind of local community activist and muck raker. If you haven’t had the pleasure yet of meeting this parasite, I sure it wouldn’t be a stretch of the imagination to figure his motives to be that of gaining the companionship of attractive well-meaning idealistic females.
He should be considered nothing more than a 21st century carpetbagger and a liar.