it was there before the mitchthemayor mess. i wonder why they took it down?

no offense, but that isnt cool. it sounds kinda..dubious, really.

also, suggesting anonymous posters are possible agents of the involved parties is absurd. if you dont want anon posts, disable them.

im all about transparency when it comes to poltics — seems to me you should be transparent on how youre linking one company to another, rather than lay down sneaky misdirection.

just sayin…

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:nmYzYAAlSFUJ:www.mitchthemayor.com/+mitchthemayor&cd=16&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Recheck the registrants address and phone number under technical contact for your research. That address, P.O. Box 459. Drums, PA 18222 570-708-8760 rolls back to a scam marketing firm. Doing some reverse searches you find that phone number attached to a couple dozen scam/spam/porn sites using that phone number and addresses in Herndon, VA, Tuscon, Az, Redmond, Washington and oddly one in Tokyo, JP.

Actually, that’s probably because Network Solutions manages over six-and-a-half-million registered domain names. I’m guessing at least one or two of those are scam sites, eh? While NS can be accused of shady practices, (check out their Wikipedia entry,) they are certainly not the scam/spam/porn guys you found in your search. In 1993 the National Science Foundation privatized the InterNIC domain registry and contracted NS to administer it. If you wanted web real estate, you went through NS to get it.

OK, so they really are scam artists. :)

Jokes aside, that phone number probably connects to a call center in Drums and the address is more than likely used for disputes between individuals and owners of sites registered with NS, hence the Attn: / c/o designations. Their offices are actually located in Herndon, VA. The other towns listed are probably satellite offices. Redmond and Tokyo make sense since Japan and Redmond are both hubs for computing technology. Tuscon I don’t get unless they want to be close to GoDaddy for some CorpEsp or an impending takeover bid.

Domain-Daily.com lists mitchTHEmayor.com on their Dec 10th report. ( http://domain-daily.com/new/2009-12-10/112.html ) Their main page offers a Whois search which returns slightly more info, specifically IP addresses:
Whois Record for Mitchthemayor.com
Domain Name: mitchthemayor.com
Domain Status: Registered
Created: 2009-12-08
Expires: 2012-12-08
Updated: 2009-12-17
ICANN Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Registrar Status: redemptionPeriod
Name Server: ns25.domaincontrol.com (216.69.185.13)
ns26.domaincontrol.com (208.109.255.13)

Now search for Iokon.com at DD:
Whois Record for Iokon.com
Domain Name: iokon.com
Domain Status: Registered
Created: 2009-10-22
Expires: 2010-10-22
Updated: 2009-10-22
ICANN Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC.
Registrar Status: clientDeleteProhibited
clientRenewProhibited
clientTransferProhibited
clientUpdateProhibited
Name Server: ns39.domaincontrol.com (216.69.185.20)
ns40.domaincontrol.com (208.109.255.20)

And then James Perry’s website comes in at:
ns51.domaincontrol.com (216.69.185.26)
ns52.domaincontrol.com (208.109.255.26)

The IP’s for Troy Henry and John Georges are not even close.

Mighty similar, yes? I don’t know how to read IP addresses and the similarities may simply be coincidence but aside from the NS# and the last 4-bit # they are the same. Searching the Name Servers at InterNIC returns Wild West Domains, Inc., a Scottsdale AZ domain name reseller. Wait… Scottsdale? I wonder if Arizona has a Secretary of State?

Of course they do! And I found the following:
Domestic Address
14455 N HAYDEN RD #219
SCOTTSDALE, AZ 85260

That address houses the offices of GoDaddy.com, Inc., The GoDaddy Group, Wild West Domains, Inc., and Domains By Proxy, Inc. We’re through the looking glass here, people! Clearly GoDaddy is trying to upset our fragile political apple-cart in some nefarious scheme to take over our fair city!!

OK, more frittering around shows that both ComputerCC and PollNOLA share the exact same IP numbers:
ns4.us.editdns.net (70.85.92.64)
ns5.us.editdns.net (72.249.105.102)
ns6.us.editdns.net (64.251.8.113)
So the other similarities are probably just coincidence after all. Oh well.

But don’t blame me this February when your catching beads from the Krewe of GoDaddy!

when I first twigged on this blog-line, I checked out the site mitchthemayor.com and did an NSLOOKUP for the site, it was registered then on the NS25 and NS26 domaincontrol.com servers.

experience tells me that your conclusion is incorrect that godaddy uses those servers primarily for “parked domains”.

Specifically, NS25.domaincontrol.com hosts the records for 65,608 domains. In that hosting list are ESTAMPS.COM and TERRASERVER.NET, both of which are very active live domains.

you can search the list yourself at:

http://www.gwebtools.com/ns-spy/ns25.domaincontrol.com

Please note that this does NOT mean there are NOT parked domains on the NS25 and NS26 servers it just shows that your suspicion may be incorrect.

My interest in this blog-line is that claims are made without supporting fact, which frames it as a “conspiracy theory” type blog-line, and political conspiracy theorists always make me curious what the agenda of the claimant is.

@Editor B and by extension Loki.

your response to @me is off target, he is stating exactly what I asked, which is “how did the leap of logic come about” that Loki used to connect IOKON and ComputerCC?

In his blog above, Loki says:

“Now, if you go to the La. Secretary of State’s website and search for that address you get a company called IOKON, LLC. Wasn’t that easy? [Edit: It seems, from what a number of people on twitter are telling me, that ComputerCC is on public record as the financial backers of Iokon. Cozy. -Loki]”

This paragraph is what is generating the question, since you cannot search by address on the LA SOS website in the Corporations Database.

If you notice Loki has already made an “edit” to that paragraph with the statement he is getting “tips” on twitter, which is nifty but it still does not address the question, how did he make the leap of logic?

Posting way down in the comments that he sees NO reason to reveal his “methods” (that’s me paraphrasing him for brevity) which is sort of a cop out.

He can simply “edit” his original article to indicate that the original blog and “address” connection was a result of a tip the he looked into, instead of obfuscating it with an edit that states twitter folks are now tipping him to ComputerCC being on “public record” as a backer of IOKON.

That edit only adds more questions for the following reasons:

ComputerCC does not claim on their website to be associated with IOKON. (JOHNSMITH has put in some legwork to find that earlier this month the ComputerCC.com website carried an IOKON Media footer link as late as 11 Dec 2009, which as a source is great to know but does not prove a conspiracy or blame.I do agree that the removal of that link has questionable timing and adds to the suspicions of readers here.)

As I pointed out earlier IOKON positions part of its business as “incubating” other business and the LA SOS database shows 7 companies associated with Robert Claypool of IOKON.

Most of them show the Kabel Drive address but that is CLAYPOOL’s business address. That does NOT mean the business necessarily work out of that address. Corporate officers and agents often list their primary work address instead of the physical office of the company they are an agent or officer of. Claypool is an officer or registered agent for several companies so it makes sense he would use the same address for all of them.

Secondly the Twiiter “tips” of “public records” raise several questions as
IOKON, and ComputerCC are NOT publicly traded companies. They are not NFP’s, PAC’s or any other type of companies that are required by law to provide financial reporting documents that become “public records”.

Loki says he does not want to reveal his methods because “they” could cover their tracks (me paraphrasing again).Past public filings cannot be altered (an amended filing can be submitted), so if a “public record” exists that says COMPUTERCC “backs” IOKON financially where is it?

They could NOT hide the original by filing an amendment to it, so knowing what the “PUBLIC record” is will not help them in this case but would certainly verify the twitter tips mentioned in the edit Loki posted.

Please don’t get me wrong, I am glad that LOKI is tracking this and that people like JOHNSMITH are putting in the energy and time to find out who actually did this.

As I have said before no one with an honest point of view or real “facts” should be hiding behind the tactics employed around this parody.

It is reprehensible to sneakily throw scat at candidates from hiding, for the simple fact that once certain “ideas” make it into the public conscious they can stick no matter how invalid they might be.

That is dirty politics, and while NOLA is known for its’ bad government, graft, cronyism and race baiting politics it HAS to clean up its act and learn to play in the sunshine instead of backrooms.

I hope that the authors of the website parody are definitively identified and the actual debate can continue without distractions like this.

1) before then it was pointing to the actual host more than likely
2) all this bad press rolled out on the 17th
3) they updated the dns on the 17th to point the name away from the host taking the site down.

http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/web-sites-on-web-server/

you will find also in this list wordcampnola.com (also reportedly an IOKON project)

they both resolve to 74.54.206.194

Found that cause i did a random check once i got to the page for any thing with nola on the page by just doing a ctrl+F for nola on the page ….

SO again … they either have some weird hostgator VPS account that picks an available hostname on an as needed basis or they are just getting shared accounts at hostgator which just get put on what everhost name is available at the time.

*If* the latter is the the case its rather odd and seemingly *cheap* that an actual web shop w0uld put their clients on a hostgator shared server ….

Domain Name: MITCHTHEMAYOR.COM
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
Name Server: NS25.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS26.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Status: redemptionPeriod
Updated Date: 17-dec-2009
Creation Date: 08-dec-2009
Expiration Date: 08-dec-2012

I decided to visit pollnola.com to see what I could see. They have some stale news about candidates who have announced their intent to run for mayor, including Leslie Jacobs. No word at pollnola about her withdrawal though. And they say that Mitch Landrieu may soon enter the race…

Anyway, here are some fun facts gleaned through Whois about the candidate weblinks PollNOLA offers:

troyhenry.com
registered to Troy Henry, New Orleans

nadineramsey.net
registered to Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.

jamesperry2010.com
site developed by blinktag.com, David Cohen, Marietta, GA
registered to Domains By Proxy, Inc, through GoDaddy
Domain servers in listed order:
NS51.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
NS52.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
No doubt that reinforces the alleged Perry angle somehow.

edmurrayformayor.com
registered to Domains By Proxy, Inc, through GoDaddy

lesliejacobsformayor.com
registered to Domains By Proxy, Inc, through GoDaddy

johngeorgesformayor.com
registered to Domains By Proxy, Inc, through GoDaddy
developed by Iokon Media

pollnola.com
registered to Domains By Proxy, Inc, through GoDaddy
developed by Iokon Media

My questions:
Is it odd that four of the six candidates linked by PollNOLA use the same registrant as PollNOLA?

Is it odd that, aside from Twitter feeds sucked directly from the candidates, PollNOLA only has month old news about only six of the twelve candidates?

Is it a conflict of interest for a company to develop one candidates website while simultaneously publishing a site that contains selective stories about other candidates?

While mulling these questions over, remember that PollNOLA does not tout itself as a fair and balanced guide to the candidates, but as a site “to teach New Orleans politicos how important it is to utilize the tools they have widely available to them from some great local digital media companies.” No doubt referring to Iokon themselves. None of the digital media companies followed by PN have local roots. (Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, FeedBurner and LinkedIn.)

Of the three talking points in PollNOLA’s Mission Statement, the third is the most telling:

// Publicity //
We’re shameless attention hounds, and we’re really good at what we do. What better way to get in the lime light than to create it?

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:dLpPqAaZHU8J:computercc.com/+iokon,+computercc&cd

this must be VERY recently removed cause 1 its still in google cache since last they scraped on 11 Dec 2009 21:43:15 GMT. and if you look at computercc’s site now it is devoid of the IOKON tag …

It seems like your Tweet was the first notice of the page? Then again, this kind of stuff spreads quickly.

Computers Communications and Controls, LLC was registered by Robert Claypool 08/23/99 and dissolved 10/23/06.

Computer Communications Systems Company, Inc. was registered 04/18/97 and the Secretary of State revoked the license, charter or whatever it was on 08/16/05. This version of the business was the only one NOT registered at the Kabel address, but instead at Claypool’s home address.

Computers, Communications and Controls, Inc. was registered 04/21/03 and is currently active and operating in good standing.

It looks as if all three businesses were operating concurrently between 04/21/03 and 08/16/05.

Iokon, LLC was registered with the State 05/21/09 and is currently active and in good standing.

The georgesformayor.com site is stamped all over with Iokon Media but a whois.net search tells us that the Georges site is registered to DomainsByProxy.com, a Scottsdale, AZ company that registers domain names for people who wish to keep their info private from search sites like whois.

Interestinger and interestinger…

Status: Inactive
Inactive Reason: Voluntary Action
File Date: 8/23/1999
Last Report Filed: 8/5/2002
Type: Limited Liability Company

At the bottom of the page it lists one amendment on file as being an Affadavit to Dissolve dated 10/23/2006. I don’t know how long it takes the LASoS to update it’s online info so maybe CCC has re-instated itself, but if not can they legally perform work in Louisiana if they dissolved the company three years ago?

I stand humbly corrected.